The London Tube Bombings Fantasy July 7, 2005
There were no tube bombs. There were no suicide bombers.
The United Kingdom government, headed by Prime Minister Tony Blair
and the Metropolitan Police, headed by Commissioner Ian Blair have
consistently claimed that three London tube explosions on 7 July
2005 were caused by Islamic suicide bombers. This article shows
these claims to be incresingly implausible and difficut to defend and
accuses the UK government and London's Metropolitan Police of deceit,
perverting the course of justice, failing to properly investigate the
explosions and the terrorist bus bombing of the same day, acting in
a blatently political manner having regard for political advantage
above truth and justice and blaming Islamists in order to promote
hatred and support for the continuing brutal occupation of Iraq and
further imperialist wars. As a consequence of this analysis, there
is a further extremely serious charge to be made against members of
the Metropolitan Police, the government and probably a miltary unit.
It is submitted that the argument presented is far more plausible
that the fantasy narrative presented by Tony and Ian Blair. The
arguments presented here are sufficient for the arrests of Prime
Minister Tony Blair and Metropolitan Police Commissioner Ian Blair
so that these claims can be investigated further. Clearly there are
also others involved in this web of corruption e.g. those present
at the Cobra meeting. We demand that they are held to account for
their crimes and call for someone to have the courage to arrest
them immediately. Quite clearly they cannot remain in office.
The argument of this article is that the events on the London
Underground are far better exlained by dust explosions and
that the blaming of four innocent British subjects is a criminal
cover-up. The government has announced that an official narrative of
the events of July 7 in place of any inquiry. Fire-fighters have been
threatened with disciplinary action should they talk to the press.
Scotland Yard's Anti-Terrorist Branch
"strongly recommendthe BBC website, which not only gives the broad informationyou seek, but also gives written and pictorial accountsof the events of that morning and the days that followed."Since the BBC website is recommended by the Metropolitan Police,
we will consider it to represent the official narrative.
Here are the main points of the official narrative.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/05/london_blasts/what_happened/html/default.stmOverview
Four suicide bombers struck in central London on Thursday 7 July,
killing 52 people and injuring 700.
The co-ordinated attacks hit the transport system as the morning
rush hour drew to a close.
Three bombs went off at 0850 BST on underground trains just outside
Liverpool Street and Edgware Road stations, and on another travelling
between King's Cross and Russell Square.
The final explosion was around an hour later on a double-decker
bus in Tavistock Square, not far from King's Cross.
7 JULY: KEY FACTS
Four bombs:
Three on underground trains
One on bus
Victims:
26 at Russell Square
13 on bus at Tavistock Place
7 at Aldgate
6 at Edgware Road
Suicide bombers:
Hasib Hussain
Mohammad Sidique Khan
Germaine Lindsay
Shehzad Tanweer
Corporate media has been extremely supportive of the official
narrative with the noticable exception of the Mirror newspaper
that broke ranks to a very limited extent by suggesting that the
alleged suicide bombers may have been tricked into carrying the
bombs. This article clearly raises a sufficient challenge to the
official narrative so that journalists should refer to alleged
suicide bombers rather than suicide bombers and to London explosions
rather than London bombings.
http://antagonise.blogspot.com/2005/11/london-77-how-to-be-good-part-1.htmlThis leaves the world with manifold stories from both the media andthe authorities of the events of 7 July all of which are based onmisleading assumptions or distortions which - at least as far as themedia is concerned - 'once recognised must be corrected, promptly andwith due prominence, and - where appropriate - an apology published'.The official line has twisted and turned and responded to media
speculation and commentary. Ian Blair has acted politically
e.g. accusing the four British subjects of being suicide bombers
following charges that
"these were Blair's bombs" on usenet. It has
been very much 'trial by media' probably with the active involvement
of psyops interests. Inaction and complacency by the mainstream
media is difficult to understand and there are suspicions that we
may be operating under a far more authoritarian legislative regime
than normal. I am referring to possible emergency legislation under
the Civil Contingencies Act. Ian Blair continues to warn of more
suicide attacks and Tony Blair has stated that
"The rules of thegame have changed." Tony Blair is such a control-freak that he would
be eager to illegitimately increase his authority by exploiting
this legislation.
It is worth considring what incentives there are for Tony and Ian
Blair to repeatedly lie and deceive over the London bombings. The
primary incentive for Ian Blair may possibly be to protect his
former collegue of the Metropolitan Police's anti-terrorism section,
Peter Power of Visor Consultants.
http://antagonise.blogspot.com/2005/07/london-underground-bombing-exercises.htmlDuring the Radio 5 Live interview, aired on the night of London'stragedy, Peter Power announced to listeners how his company hadrun an exercise earlier that day in Central London involving 1,000people and which was based on "simultaneous bombs going off preciselyat the railway stations where it happened this morning".Ian Blair has not been shy of showing enthusiastic support for
New Labour polices and has become known as 'New Labour's favourite
policeman'. He is already predisposed to do as the government wants.
Tony Blair and the wider New Labour government have far more to gain
through this huge deception. By claiming that the tube explosions
were caused by Islamic suicide bombers, Tony Blair's government
achieves a greater hatred of Muslims and increased support for the
maintenence and expansion of their Zionist war against Muslims. This
is particularly important at a time when support for Blair's
fascist policies and Bliar's own popularity is extremely low. A
Cobra meeting was held on July 7 2005. The Civil Contingencies Act
would have come into force. Blair would enjoy the additional power
and authority conferred by the emergency laws. Under these laws,
they can simply decide the laws that they want in the circumstances
e.g. control over the press.
Tony Blair's government also escapes culpability for the deaths
of the explosions' victims, privatising the London Underground and
charges of criminal negligence against London Underground. Should
Visor Consultant's exercise be found to have contributed to the
explosions through ignorance, neglect or incompetence, the government
also escapes culpability and accountability for actually causing
the deaths of the victims as a result of an anti-terrorist exercise.
There is also the fact that the authorities are unwiling to accept
that there is a serious danger of dust explosions on the London
Underground. Pursuing the official narrative ensures that this real
danger does not become widely known or addressed.
Similar explosions have happened without any bombs or suicide bombersPerhaps the most persuasive argument against the official narrative
is that similar explosions have happened before on the London
Underground without any bombs or suicide bombers. Other accounts of
similar incidents refer to soot, smoke and fires but differ in that
there were injuries but not fatalities and that the Chancery Lane
tube stopped at a station. Eyewitness accounts of the 25 January
2003 Chancery Lane derailment seem remarkably similar to the accounts
of 7 July 2005. The black faces suggest a dust explosion.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2694503.stm"When the train arrived at the station I think it came off the track and hit the tunnel. There was some kind of fire. Most people's faces went black and they couldn't breathe properly. There was smoke inside the carriage. We were lucky to survive. Most of the people in my carriage were crying and praying for survival. The doors wouldn't open and people were trying to smash windows The train stopped suddenly and bumped six times before it stopped so people were really scared and didn't know what was happening. The driver himself couldn't even breathe himself. His face was all black."... "The carriage began to fill up with smoke, as did the platform. And we could see those on the platform running and screaming as we tried desperately to open the doors of the carriage. I truly thought the sight of the platform filling with smoke might be the last thing I saw."The Camden Town derailment of 25 January 2003
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2694361.stm"Terrified travellers moved through emergency doors to escape ontothe Central Line platform as soot from the tunnel walls filledthe air."..."There was smoke and everything and the driver came on and saideveryone to get to the front of the train and started shouting'mayday'."The problem of the explosivesIan blair claimed in his Dimbleby lecture that
"Peroxide is the basisof the bombs." and there were earlier claims in the inquiry that
the "renowned chemist" had traces of TATP at his house. The police
appear to have since abandoned pursuit of the renowned chemist.
Peroxide explosives do not cause the
effects described by eyewitness accounts e.g. at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4659243.stm and peroxide
explosives would be immediately recognisable after the event.
Peroxide explosives such as Acetone Peroxide (TATP) explode through
an 'endothermic reaction' - it is the rapid seperation of the
chemicals involved which produces very little heat. There should
not be heat or fires as described in witness statements. Peroxide
explosives seperate mainly into acetone in a liquid form - more
commonly known as nail varnish remover - and acetone, an unstable
Oxygen molecule with a strong pungent odour which then changes into
stable Oxygen.
Witness accounts of heat, fire and hot choking dust are far more
consistent with dust exposions which can be easily ignited from any
spark or hot surface. It is quite feasable that the dust explosions
are secondary explosions, but evidence of peroxide explosive should
have been identified literally within minutes of the start of the
investigation. There appears to be a conspiracy to deny the danger
of dust explosions on the London Underground.
The problem of explosives under the trainsMany eyewitness suggest that the explosions occured under the tube
carriages. Explosions under carriages are more consistent with dust
explosions and seem to pose huge problems for suicide bombers. These
witnesses testimonies include an off-duty policewoman.
The policewoman's account
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article333787.eceIndependent on Sunday (London) December 18, 2005, Sunday 'A GUY WAS WRITHING AROUND ... I JUST TOLD PEOPLE THEY'D BE OK'; WHEN THE 7 JULY BOMBERS STRUCK, OFF-DUTY POLICEWOMAN LIZZIE KENWORTHY BYLINE: INTERVIEW BY JULIA STUART I was a safer schools officer at the time and normally would have been at a secondary school in south Tottenham, but that morning I was on my way to a conference in Westminster. I was in plain clothes and holding on to the rail in the middle of the carriage when there there was a bang and the train stopped. I thought we had had a shunt. Everyone gasped and the lights went out. Smoke started to come into the carriage and I told everyone to keep calm. People started to shout from the next carriage that they needed help, and doctors and nurses. That's when I got out my warrant card and said that I was a police officer. I went through the connecting doors into the next carriage and realised that we were in serious trouble. It was very dark and people covered in soot were coming towards me. I walked through to the end and saw the buckled door of the next carriage, which is where the bomb had gone off. A man said: 'You mustn't go in.' I could hear people screaming, so I knew I had to see what I could do. I crawled through the interconnecting door, which had blood on the glass. One woman sitting on the seat was twisted round. She was trapped and there wasn't much left of her leg. The chap next to her had lost his leg and there was a woman to their left who was on her back trapped in the metal, which had twisted up through the middle of the carriage. The roof was still on, but the lining of the carriage had been blown off. The sides had also come off and there was a big hole in the floor. A guy was writhing around on a big sheet of metal a bit further up. I had a corduroy jacket on and tied it round what was left of the first chap's leg as tightly as I could. I thought he would die if I didn't do something quickly. I held his hand, as well as the hand of the woman who had lost her leg, and told them that help was coming and they were going to live. A man from the carriage I'd come through asked if he could help and I told him to go and get some T-shirts and belts. He came back with some and I gave a belt to the woman who was on the seat and she tied it round her leg. I told her to hold on to it and help would come. She did; she was very brave. I also gave her a T-shirt to stem the blood from her other injuries. The man who had lost his leg was talking to me almost normally. He said, 'I've lost my leg', and I said, 'Yes, but you're going to be all right.' Periodically, I would check the woman on the floor because she was still shouting. I couldn't leave those three to go to the young man lying on the piece of metal. I thought I might as well stay with the people I could help. I just shouted to him that he would be all right. The people who had been in my carriage started walking along the tracks towards Aldgate. I shouted at them quite angrily to get me a first-aid kit. They were walking like zombies. They couldn't bear to look. Eventually, the carriage filled up with paramedics and firemen, who took over. I started to flag a bit and decided to leave.http://www.cambridge-newsThe impact of the blast made him pass out. As he came to, he wonderedwhether he was alive or dead."We were right in the carriage where the bomb was. I was knockedout. I did not know what was going on."I wondered if I was dead or not. I said to myself, you can't bedead because your brain is having conscious thoughts, so concentratehard. I was telling myself 'wake up Bruce, wake up'."Disorientated, he only gradually realised where he was and whathad happened."When I woke up and looked around I saw darkness, smoke andwreckage. It took a while to realise where I was and what was goingon, then my first concern was for Crystal."She was okay but she was in shock because she was trying to dealwith the person on top of her who had massive head injuries. Wehave just found out that this person died," said Mr Lait, who livesin Suffolk.He too was afraid to move because there was a seriously injuredwoman lying on top of him....He and Crystal were helped out of the carriage. As they made theirway out, a policeman pointed out where the bomb had been."The policeman said 'mind that hole, that's where the bombwas'. The metal was pushed upwards as if the bomb was underneath thetrain. They seem to think the bomb was left in a bag, but I don'tremember anybody being where the bomb was, or any bag," he said.The problem that the alleged suicide bombers could not have caughtthe tubes as claimedThe police maintain that the alleged 'suicide bombers' caught the
7.40 train from Luton.
http://antagonise.blogspot.com/2005/11/london-77-how-to-be-good-part-1.htmlThat the alleged bombers caught the 7.48am Luton service and arrivedin London forty minutes later is far from certain at all. The 7.48amdidn't leave Luton until 0756 on 7 July and didn't arrive in King'sCross until 8.42am, some 22 minutes after its scheduled arrivaltime of 8.20am. By 8.42am on 7 July two of the bombed trains hadalready left King's Cross without two of the alleged suicide bomberson board.The UK Government and the Police Investigation followed a 'script'This analysis - although necessarily somewhat speculative - is
assisted through priviledged knowledge.
It is submitted that the UK government and the
Metropolitan police have been following this
document as a script following the July 7 incidents
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9410.htm. It is a
document by Efraim Halevi in the Jerusalem Post. It was published
at approximately 5p.m. G.M.T. July 7, 2005.
"The multiple, simultaneous explosions that took place today onthe London transportation system were the work of perpetrators whohad an operational capacity of considerable scope. ... There wascareful planning, intelligence gathering, and a sophisticated choiceof timing as well as near-perfect execution." It was first reported
that the tube explosions happened at 8.51 a.m., 8.56 a.m. and 9.17
a.m. On Saturday, 9 july the Metropolitan Police announced that
the explosions were simultaneous.
"We are faced with a deadly and determined adversary who will stopat nothing and will persevere as long as he exists as a fightingterrorist force." "he" suggests a particular individual.
77 is sometimes taken to mean Kratos according to Gematria. A
'renowned chemist' was partially fitted-up for the London explosions.
"We are in the throes of a world war, raging over the entire globeand characterized by the absence of lines of conflict and an easilyidentifiable enemy. There are sometimes long pauses between oneattack and another, consequently creating the wrong impressionthat the battle is all over, or at least in the process of beingwon." It is difficult to identify this 'enemy', propaganda problems.
"Generally speaking, the populations at large are not involved inthe conflict, and by and large play the role of bystanders. Butonce in a while, these innocents are caught up in the maelstrom andsuffer the most cruel and wicked of punishments meted out by thosewho are not bound by any rules of conduct or any norms of structuredsociety. For a while, too short a while, we are engrossed with thesheer horror of what we see and hear, but, with the passage of time,our memories fade and we return to our daily lives, forgettingthat the war is still raging out there and more strikes are sureto follow." Maelstrom - a whirlpool could refer to the turbulance
in the tube explosions, could refer to a bystander in the political
'maelstrom'.
"those who are not bound by any rules of conduct orany norms of structured society" could refer to suicide bombers, to
a certain UK military regiment or to anarchists.
"... our memoriesfade and we return to our daily lives, forgetting ..." Keep them
scared, Ian Blair. "Be afraid. Be afraid."
"There will be supreme tests of leadership in this unique situationand people will have to trust the wisdom and good judgment ofthose chosen to govern them. The executives must be empowered toact resolutely and to take every measure necessary to protect thecitizens of their country and to carry the combat into whateverterritory the perpetrators and their temporal and spiritual leadersare inhabiting.The rules of combat must be rapidly adjusted to cater tothe necessities of this new and unprecedented situation, andinternational law must be rewritten in such a way as to permitcivilization to defend itself. Anything short of this invitesdisaster and must not be allowed to happen." 90 days detention
anyone?
"chosen to govern" is a very interesting term. Notice not
elected, perhaps sponsored?
"The aim of the enemy is not to defeat western civilization butto destroy its sources of power and existence, and to render ita relic of the past. It does not seek a territorial victory or aregime change; it wants to turn western civilization into historyand will stop at nothing less than that." Suggests anarchists,
but also the recent change in USUK spin - attacks on the Celiphate.
"It will show no mercy or compassion and no appreciation for thesenoble values when practiced by us. This does not mean that we canor should assume the norms of our adversaries, nor that we shouldact indiscriminately. It does mean that the only way to ensure oursafety and security will be to obtain the destruction, the completedestruction, of the enemy." Does this refer to the particular enemy
'he' earlier?
"In the past, governments have been expected to provide security totheir citizens. The responsibility is still there, in principle. Butin practice, no government today can provide an effective 'suit ofprotection' for the ordinary citizen. There can be no protectionfor every bus, every train, every street, every square. In thesetimes the ordinary citizen must be vigilant and must make hispersonal contribution to the war effort. Private enterprise willhave to supplement the national effort in many walks of life." The
reference to private enterprise looks misplaced. Those familiar
into the independent investigation of July 7 will recognise its
significance in relation to the bus bombing.
"This war is already one of the longest in modern times; as thingsappear now, it is destined to be part of our daily lives for manyyears to come, until the enemy is eliminated, as it surely willbe." Cannot "move on" until the 'enemy' is eliminated.
We have more.
Commemoration of the 6 month anniversary
of the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes
Sunday 22nd January, 1pm
Stockwell Tube Station
London
With the deepest respects to the family and friends of Jean Charles
de Menezes.
deep
Comments have been disabled due to malicious commentingThe following comments were made to this post� January 20, 2006 - Untitled CommentPosted by Anonymous
,you have posted no evidence whatsoever,as someone who is very good friends with lthe father of one of the bombers you are talking out of your arse pal,they even sourced the materials locally,also knowing the owner of one of the shops where they bought the peroxide...get a life
Permanent Link
� January 20, 2006 - No evidence eh?Posted by deep
No evidence whatever, but you know his dad eh?
Thanks for your comment. We'll let the readers decide.
Permanent Link
� January 20, 2006 - Jerusalem PostPosted by Bridget Dunne
A very interesting article, I was unaware of the problem of dust explosions on the underground and am just off to read your previous post about this problem.
I was particularly struck by the article in the Jerusalem Post, just one point, the link to it doesn't work, it links to the Antagonist instead.
In the light of the government's refusal to hold an independent public inquiry, how about a call for an indepedent people's inquiry, a 7/7 truth commission?
Permanent Link
� January 21, 2006 - What to do?Posted by deep
Hi Bridget,
For those researching dust explosions. The terminology is not applied regularly so that dust explosions, vapour cloud explosions, fuel air explosions (FAE) and other terms can be describing the same phenomenon. You will probably find that many consultant sites seem to be remarkably similar to
http://www.chemeng.ed.ac.uk/~emju49/SP2001/webpage/intro/intro.html. It appears that the technical details e.g. critical parameters for dust explosions to occur, are treated as established and accepted knowledge.
>In the light of the government's refusal to hold an independent public inquiry, how about a call for an indepedent people's inquiry, a 7/7 truth commission?
Thanks for the question. I've really had to reflect on it and I've skirted round and not answered it.
I'm thinking of myself as someone who has done some original research into the events of July 7 like yourself and Ant.
Those of us who have done some research into the July 7 explosions have done it because we did not accept the official story. I have come to realise that all of it is BS. Others might be willing to accept that there are just a few minor inconsistencies to an essentially correct official narrative. Then there's I know his dad.
Bloggers addressing the issues are fulfilling the role of a people's inquiry in a small and undernoticed way. The trouble is what we've found. My own 'alternative narrative' goes along these lines
At least three explosions on London tube resulting in deaths and injuries. The explosions were accidental / result of negligence, incompetence or ignorance, etc.
Bus bombing causing deaths and injuries.
I think that many other independent investigators may be making a mistake by looking for covert bombers. The dust explosions material is interesting because it reveals how easily explosions can occur and how London Undergroud apparently do not recognise or address the danger. This in itself is a very serious finding.
People are not aware of the dangers of dust explosions and there is a widespread assumption that the only threat that dust poses is getting dirty. That people don't appreciate the dangers of dust explosions is not surprising.
The police must have realised early on that the explosions were dust explosions but decided to lie and cover-up.
One consequence of the cover-up is that the bus bombing is not properly investigated. It has been blamed on fictitious suicide bombers and the real bombers have not been pursued.
Another consequence is that the fiction has been used to justify the killing of Jean Charles de Menezes.
I believe that there should be a criminal inquiry with senior figures held to account for their actions. Just to make this absolutely clear, I mean they should be convicted and imprisoned. It may be possible to start an inquiry by the IPCC, their conditions refer to being a witness to events and it is the correct place to make a complaint that involves a Commissioner of police. I am not able to make that complaint.
Doesn't answer your question, sorry. I'll give it some more thought.
Permanent Link
� January 26, 2006 - Anarchists or Marxists?Posted by dizzy
Re: Halevi's references to those that want to destroy Western civilization.
This could apply to Marxists as well as anarchists. It could even apply to the Greens!
Halevi's remarks would seem to catch all of the parties inspired Marxist ideology e.g. Socialist Workers Party, Socialist Party, SSP, the various Communist parties, etc.
Permanent Link
� May 2, 2006 - If it's power surges and dust explosions you want....Posted by parallax
From BBC News:
Track power surge releases flare
Last Updated: Saturday, 1 October 2005, 16:08 GMT 17:08 UK
Train passengers fled a platform after a power surge sent a flare 10 foot into the air from the track.
An eye witness described people screaming as the fireball moved along the track at London Bridge station on Saturday afternoon.
Electrician Peter Difolco, 44, was returning from a shopping trip when he said there was a large flash.
"It was like a Roman candle firework, there was lots of smoke and people were screaming and running out the station."
'Station evacuated'
Mr Difolco, who was with his wife, said he had an idea it was something electrical.
"I had guessed it was something electrical but there were a lot of frightened people.
"There was a small explosion like a firecracker. It went up quite high and started working its way down the track, it went about 120 foot and it lasted for about a minute.
"There were lots of police sirens and then the station was evacuated and staff were comforting people."
British Transport Police confirmed there was an incident involving a power line at the station at about 1330 BST.
The station closed for about 30 minutes.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4300682.stm
Permanent Link
� May 17, 2006 - 'no smoke as such but a very, very fine dust'Posted by parallax
Terence Adams:
A divisional commander with London Fire Brigade, he was at King's Cross when the first bomb went off and climbed down into the tunnel to help bring out the 21 bodies.
'The effect of a blast is like a thunder clap or a very loud firework and that can numb your thoughts for a while. We knew that the difficulty we were going to have was managing people and getting them to the surface. Getting people out of the train was difficult, it was a matter of getting them out by hand or torchlight but it was difficult to even see them: there wasn't smoke as such but a very, very fine dust which really reduced visibility.'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1525430,00.html
Permanent Link
� September 11, 2006 - Problems with exposivesPosted by dizzy
There seem to be problems with the nature and the location of the explosives. If they were dust cloud explosions, then they would be over a wide area and there would be no explosives to identify.
Permanent Link
� January 7, 2007 - concerning a previous postPosted by Anonymous
I posted that I knew one of the bombers families, why do you find it so hard to believe ?what have I to gain by lieing about it ? if you can believe that these 4 blokes actually had families how come you can't seem to believe that someone reading your website is friends with them ? there's a few things in this that from personal involvement I can say for certain are not bullshit, for instance why did they purchase [ and also attempt to purchase elswhere] very large quantities of h2o2 ?,I've seen the reciept with the cell number on it before it was taken away from the shop by special branch[ which a mate of mine owns in Leeds], that's what I can't get my head around about your fundamental critique ''that they were innocent dupes'' ,i, I've seen the reciept for a very large quantity of h202, I seriously have got no reason to lie about it, ,can you try and reply without accusations that I'm some how in on the conspiracy, regards
Permanent Link
� February 9, 2007 - Reply to AnonymousPosted by deep
Thanks for your comment. We'll let the readers decide.
Permanent Link
� February 9, 2007 - to AnonymousPosted by dizzy
You claim that the alleged bombers bought large amounts of H2O2 (Hydrogen Peroxide) and that you know one their families.
Here's the problem - buying H2O2 is not the same as being suicide bombers. The growshop sells H2O2 probably at strength 18% for hydroponic gardening. Buying lots of H2O2 would normally suggest that they have got a big operation growing skunk or even that they had money at that time to pay for it.
Perhaps you could help out here. Did they buy other items consistent with growing skunk e.g. nutrients? Were they regular customers and known at the growshop? If they bought enough supplies to last a few months then they didn't expect to die. They were growing skunk.
There is no evidence in the official fairy-tale. Knowing his dad and the claim that they bought H2O2 adds nothing to a story discredited by the claim that they caught a train that didn't exist.